What is Wyvern?
To some, it’s just a game, including the races, guilds, quests, and all the maps that made up the universe. To others it was the community, a 2D Minath Auction Hall chat room to socialize with a variety of people from across the globe. To others, it was an idea.
Wyvern broke grounds when it was released, even winning an award at the time. At it’s core, it is nothing more than a Graphical MUD, but there is a cult following of players that have waited for over 5 years for the game to return despite hearing close to nothing about it from it’s creator. The same fans that were able to conjure up a letter with hundreds of signatures in just a few weeks, asking Rhialto to bring it back for them. The same fans that have players that have stuck around for close to 17 years, claiming they have not found anything better.
Well, Wyvern is coming back. Will it still be Wyvern?
When Rhialto took his hiatus, Wizards, a moderation and content creation team, ran the game in his stead. Thousands of maps were added to the game, only increasing in polish with each one. Balance changes that were long overdue, were implemented. Bugs were fixed that have been around since the game was created. And they threw Wyvern’s 10 year anniversary party, perhaps marking the pinnacle of Wyvern’s development.
There were complaints about the Wizards. They were accused of being power hungry, banishing people solely based on their attitude. Some long time players took grievance with the balance changes implemented, most noticeably the change to healing. Others didn’t like the rules that were enforced, calling them outdated, even though these rules were originally implemented by Rhialto himself.
When the game went down March 02, 2011, the reasons for it’s departure started with server trouble and getting a more reliable host, but over the years it morphed into a issue for lawyers. Rhialto wasn’t always the sole owner. There were others that still owned a piece of Wyvern from the game’s early years under Cabochon.com. Rhialto did not want to monetize the game without being the sole owner, fearing old colleagues would come out from the shadows claiming copyright and demanding money. Recently, with a final wire transfer in Hong Kong, Rhialto was able to get sole ownership, under a different company.
What surprised most, is Rhialto also doesn’t own the Wizard’s creations. Art, maps, quests, and items that the Wizards created, are the Wizard’s property to do with what they wish. In order for Rhialto to use Wizard content in the new game, he would need consent from each Wizard. The most notable Wizards have came publicly and blatantly refused.
Arilou’s, one of the Arch-Wizards, reasons were many:
Arilou:
We spoke previously. I told him that we would be willing to do organizational work before officially retiring and then we could be emailed if there was a problem. If the problem was small we’d fix it or if not we’d make the decision on whether or not the area should be removed. That is different than his current proposal.
Besides which it my work contains ideas, stories, and names that I would potentially like to use elsewhere.
Rhialto simply said that he would ask us to sign over our content and it was okay if we said no. Apparently it was not okay but what are you going to do?
Teshuvah, another Arch-Wizard, stated:
Teshuvah:
We were told we would be able to keep our stuff, that we would be able to fix it on the new wyvern so everything works… and that was not the case.
We always kept ownership of our stuff so we could protect it and see it was used as we saw fit.
Binyamin is the only other Wizard currently to come out and publicly state their refusal to let Rhialto use their content.
Binyamin:
I did not give him permission to use my content. I don’t think any Wizards did.
There has been little noise out of Rhialto explaining the situation from his side, but he did release criticism of the Wizards regarding how they handled things when he was absent:
Sadly, you didn’t get to see the hundreds of articulate and intelligent complaints I received about them over the years. Not the ones from kids who were screwing around, but full, well-rounded essays from obviously smart players about the culture of ass-kissing and fear that the wizards created in my absence.
And to be honest, half the reason I was gone was that I didn’t like the way they were running it. It still amazes me that NOT ONCE did it ever occur to them that if people were “cheating” on quests, then maybe, just maybe, that rule should have been changed. Instead they placed traps and barbed wire and armed guards through the whole game trying to stop a behavior that had become obviously the way people wanted to play.
The wizards acted like the RIAA. Everyone on earth was telling them that the world was changing, and they just dug their heels in and started shooting people. The list of banished players for minor offenses is absolutely staggering.
This is a GAME, for crying out fucking loud. They should be ashamed of themselves. Every ounce of heart they put into their map designs was completely negated by the culture of zero-fun that they instituted.
As far as not caring, I’ve put almost a quarter of a million dollars of my own money, and close to 10 full-time years of my life, into this game. Moreover, I’m about to spend another quarter million dollars (I’m in over $80k already this year alone) and another couple of years bootstrapping it up from nothing.
Just because I had to take a break and make sure I didn’t get fired from the most important technology company on the face of the earth, doesn’t mean I didn’t care.
The wizards and I have irreconcilable differences of opinion about how to run a fun multiplayer game. Which is totally fine — they are entitled to their opinions. But it’s my game, so we’re going to do it my way this time around.
Granted, there will be other Wizards who will give their content over. Rhialto has reached out, or is in the process of tracking down all the Wizards that have worked on the game. Legolas is a personal friend of Rhialto, and it is assumed players will still get to experience his content. Losing Arilou, Teshuvah, and Binyamin, however, is a big blow to the amount of content the new game will see at release.
So, again, what is Wyvern?
If Wyvern is only a game to you, it is not going to be the same. Thousands of sprites and maps will not be included in the new game. It will take quite a long time even after Wyvern’s re-launch, for new Wizards and players alike to expand the universe to where it was previously. And even when it gets there, the old maps will still be gone forever.
Consider this, however. Halflings will still be there to squish. The Paladins guild will still be there to judge you for killing unicorns just for their horns. Green Dragon Scale Mail will still be waiting at the bottom of a Random Dungeon to sit in your inventory because nobody will buy. Macros can still be made so you don’t have to manually walk to the Minath Auction hall just to sit in AFK until reboot.
New maps will come, at least we will have Wyvern.
21 Comments
Anonymous
July 2, 2016 at 2:32 pmGood riddance. They were horrible game admins & I couldn’t care less about their content.
Cody B.
July 12, 2016 at 3:05 pmHello Rhialto! Long time player here! I was Darunia the first blue Rakshasa and later more well known as Pol. I really loved the original wyvern I got into! It was fun and exciting. I loved player’s helping me with gold and gear they would let me borrow for tough quests and I loved doing the same for others later on. I was never a big fan of a lot of the wizards changes, I felt towards the end wyvern it became a hellish grind. I love reading your thoughts on the new game youre making because you always stress you want it to be fun! I’m excited to play it and pay for it as I’m sure it’ll be worth it!
Marquis Salvature
July 14, 2016 at 2:46 amThanks, it was a good read.
That damn halfling that abused magic mechanics
August 11, 2016 at 2:51 pmI’ll admit, I was too young and stupid at the time to come up with a proper opinion of the moderating. However, I do remember things getting out of hand near the end when having a bit of fun in the ‘wrong way’ was crippled for being crippled’s sake.
That being said, I can also appreciate the sentiment of the wizards wanting to tell a story their way. And to that end, I thank them for having a firm hand (heavens knows I needed my share of backhands at that age) in some places. I wish them the best and thank them for taking on the task of running Wyvern while they did.
CPKouyate
August 30, 2016 at 12:23 pm[shout]: *something smells fishy* Teshuvah is that you?
*summoned to her pink palace*
*reprimanded*
*banned for 24 hours*
*log on to alt*
*banned for 48 hours*
Ahhhh… to be 16 again
Rikusho
December 10, 2016 at 12:38 pmCant say ill miss Bin. I still felt heartache over him banning 3 of my characters because one of them was named “inappropriate?” and all I wanted was an explanation and instead was banned. Yes it was a game but it took hard work on those character for him to simply banish them. looking back 12 years ago to that and how devastated i was (hahaha) im glad R took the game back under control.
Nope
December 15, 2016 at 9:07 pmOh Man.. I can’t believe this is back up. So many good memories of exploring and having fun.
I used to play as Beckham, elf arrow spammer and merchant of random crap. Till one day, with ALL my expensive junk out there on display for sale, I was booted. Came back to find a rebooted server, and it wasn’t even that time of day yet. Took a break from the game for a bit and when I came back, all sorts of quest items were no longer obtainable, resist items didn’t work anymore, arrows didn’t stack and my character had to…. eat?
Still was a super fun waste of time. I hope the new one does well. I’ll miss Tesh, and yes maybe even Biny. Thanks for the hard work R!
-Beck
zifa
December 17, 2016 at 8:09 amGlad to see Wyvern is back, great job Rhialto!
I do miss building Coran and running the Lich War (and the player-house island.) Hopefully when the PC version or Android version gets ready I will log in.
-Zifa, the glowing one.
Jeremiah McClure
December 22, 2016 at 7:54 pmHey Zifa, glad to see your’re back.
R doesn’t run this site, it is ran by me. But I told him to come check your comment out.
Hope to see you on game soon.
Dilph
March 17, 2019 at 5:12 amCoran is legendary and has always been my favorite map. I cannot wait to see what m9re can be done with it!
Archarius
January 3, 2017 at 3:53 amThe game was really fun but some of the wizards and the way they moderated were absolutely awful. I STILL hold a grudge against two of them to this day, like 10 years later, for being accused of lying and a character banned for “griefing”.
Remember Summon Greater Demon scrolls that summoned shoggoths (whatever scroll summoned them). I happily discovered them early on and used them to great effect through my early leveling. One time I used one in an emergency as I went too deep in a dungeon, and it didn’t take effect until after I died and respawned in the church. No biggie, I’ll just log off for the night and try again tomorrow.
Next day the character was banned. Wtf? I talked to the wizard who banned me and they said another wizard repeatedly warned me about griefing new players (I never once spoke to that wizard, either before or after that incident) and when he told me what happened I was shocked. Apparently when you log off with an active summons it doesn’t disappear like in every other game ever made, it sticks around and goes hostile. It was getting new players stuck in an endless death loop, dying in the church to it then respawning in the same church, over and over. I felt bad but wtf I had no idea that would happen.
This wizard accused me of lying about the story I just told and said that according to the other wizard I did it intentionally to grief new players and was warned repeatedly to stop it. I’m no griefer, far from it. You just had a really nasty, unfortunate game mechanic I was unaware of. What game in the history of multiplayer games has a player’s summoned creature persist after that player logs off and turns it hostile?
If Wyvern comes back without these awful wizards sign me up! The game is great but those damned wizards were terrible.
Anonymous
August 4, 2017 at 1:57 pmHey funny thing about that I was the first person to intentionally abuse that problem and lay Cast Magic Trap all over the temple so near-dead players would have to walk through a floor full of traps to reach the healing fountain! I didnt get banned for it, but it was definitely fun and in the end it gave me a sort of sense of accomplishment for helping them discover and fix such a major problem in the game. 🙂 Also, DID get scolded for dropping junk on the world map only to get teleported and scolded for ‘littering’. Server lag for dropping a pile of overlapping items in 1 spot, pfft cmon.
Dilph
March 17, 2019 at 5:13 amCoran is legendary and has always been my favorite map. I cannot wait to see what m9re can be done with it!
Growler625
April 11, 2017 at 7:04 pmI played as Whippet and it was over 10 years ago. I was thinking of the flaming skulls the other day and say hey, wonder if Wyvern is still up. Sadly not. Hopefully, it comes back up on PC because would love to play again.
Jeremiah McClure
April 11, 2017 at 7:05 pmIt’s back on Apple and soon to be Android.
Tyler B
June 1, 2017 at 9:29 pmOh man, I have been checking the internet for the last 6 years trying to find when this game is coming back! The race/skill system in this game was the best in any RPG I have ever seen. I will admit I summoned stoning gaze monsters in the exit of the newbie starting zone and sat with my invisibility cloak and fill up with statues, the fact that is possible was just absolutely amazing and really a ton of fun, even if my buddy got banned temporarily for it (He didn’t have an invis cloak 😉
Long story Long most amazing RPG ever. Also I was aspiring to be a wizard with tons of quality content in submission. I’m sure none of it is saved anywhere but I have a Bachelors in Game Software, work in Software Engineering/Web Development as a career so I’m technically capable and more than happy to assist in any development of code or content that is needed (Note I’m not a great artist though)
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Icedkid
October 21, 2017 at 3:34 amMan, I can’t wait to play this again. I’ve been checking up on it over the years hoping to see it come back. I remember getting banned for flipping out on a wizard for not getting my LQ reward because I had to get off for a little while. Not a 24 hour ban, a permanent ban…. When it eventually comes back to PC I’ll be there for sure. Hands down this game was one of the most immersive experiences I’ve ever played. I’m glad Rhialto eventually took it back.
Isray
February 5, 2018 at 8:24 pmInteresting to see it back, though I think after playing a bit the only way I would be able to is on an emulator, or using a keyboard with my tablet, but I can see the appeal of mobile. Never the less its nice to see it and it’s community persist. I remember writing an essay like the one mentioned to Rhialto, never knew if it was read, but I guess it wasn’t meaningless.
Sucks that my name is taken in the game D: